Will Power
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Bunch of questions I have been storing up..can anyone help?
by The Dragon in1. what is to be gained by punishing someone beyond repentance?.
2. who is in more trouble and needing forgiveness?
people astray..or the ones who led them astray?.
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My DC invitation is delivered today
by Wasanelder Once ina car full of sisters whom i've known for years showed up today.
one got out of the car and asked if i got my "invitation".
she let me know that they were supposed to give one to everybody.
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Will Power
you might get a kick out of this....
I wish I'd apologized ahead of time tho (making mental note if there is a next time)
I got 2 lovely ladies at the door this afternoon!
I answered...."I thought I was on the do not call list?"
Lady #1 - Oh?
Me - Yea, because some of the things I have to say scare you guys away!
L - oh? smile - We're in the neighborhood to invite you to...
Me - that thing? I thought that was a couple of weeks ago? hmm next week eh? Well, I don't really agree with alot of what they'd be talkin about.
L - what do you mean
Me - Well, that one talk "Stagger to the Slaughter" - thats an intriguing title isn't it!
Lady # 2 - Oh yes, that was a very uplifting talk
Me - You've got to be kidding "STAGGERING TO THE SLAUGHTER?"
all eyes are darting now.
I made a few comments about the df'g policies & asked if she new anyone in that state.
L - Oh yes my daughter
I immediately sympathized with her - how terrible that must be for you to not be able to see her, talk to her.
She right away corrected me - they can talk if there's family business
Me - Oh, like a wedding?
L - well, no.... if you understood Jehovah's discipline you'd know.... - like a child, you must ...
(my daughter heard this - "yea mom - I'm grounded right now I'm cut off"
yes dear, but I'd never turn my back on you for anything, you are still 100 % in this family, sharing, eating, all of it - this is different.
L - we all want to be in paradise like the bible says (or something like that - shows the happy pic at the bottom of "deliverence' paper)
Me - this bible? pointing to her NWT - its not even written to you - its for the annointed
L - ...the other sheep - we benefit
Me - you mean the Gentiles - the other sheep
L - shows paper again reeling a bit now
I went in for the "when a loved one Leaves Jehovah" article - looking for the moses paragraph
cause we got into the df'g arrangement again. How the elders decide if someone can be saved, i.e. come back
she said no it was jehovah
I asked thru the elders? They are the ones that make you sit in the back for months - they do all the secret deciding
no - holy spirit
everyone has it if they pray for it
WHAT? I asked? I thought only the annointed are led by the spirit
(she also said she's been in JC comm. before and could bring in whoever she wanted
I asked her if that was really true - no answer
I asked her if she knew who J.R.Brown was.
NO
told her who he was and what he'd said
she wanted to know if it was something i read.
I said No, I'd heard the taped conversation - no one affiliated with the WT is inspired or SPIRIT DIRECTED
well - that couldn't be - then she used the words Faithful & Discreet slave to me - an ordinary householder YIKKES
I told her Brown was responding to a reporter about the guy from Wakill arrested for child pornography.
they started backing away.
I got kind of PO'd - you guys always take off whenever you run into someone who knows the truth about the truth.
She said not true - they just had to finish delivering the invites.
I said - You're not serious!
I spouted off a few more things as they were walking away - then invited them back anytime.
whew - Heart rate increased quite a bit - nothing like I'd experienced in the past tho, then after they left I calmed right down - did a bunch of house work, and then laughed about it with a friend.
Before I'd shake for about an hour. I might be cured! or on my way!
Hey I just realized - she never even gave me one!
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How Jehovah's Witnesses are told to treat disfellowshipped Relatives.
by jwfacts inin another thread it was mentioned the witnesses do not shun disfellowshipped relatives, so i thought i would copy a few articles that show the watchtower says quite definitely that they are to almost totally shun relatives, along with some examples that i know personally.
i personally know many that have not been contacted by their parents for years;my cousin was my best friend, and for a year before my disfellowshipping week after week i spent hours with her and her child, who spent 4 months of his first year in hospital.
on the day of my disfellowshipping i was informed that i am no longer welcome there, and i have not seen my second cousin for 6 months now.
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Will Power
Gary that is brilliant.
They don't realize this do they.
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"Maintain a Threefold Cord in Marriage,"
by Will Power in"maintain a threefold cord in marriage," .
can anyone give me some info about this talk .
day 2 of assembly @ 3:45 (lol) .
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Will Power
thank you blondie.
commenting on highlighted quote......so after 15 yrs of marriage the WT now uses this interpretation (as coming from god)
to wedge itself between my newly converted husband & I and as an adultress becoming the "Other Person".
Completing the trinity - jehovah - husband - Borg and using what they call holy spirit to bind them together.
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"Maintain a Threefold Cord in Marriage,"
by Will Power in"maintain a threefold cord in marriage," .
can anyone give me some info about this talk .
day 2 of assembly @ 3:45 (lol) .
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Will Power
Gary: I didnt' mean to say I agree with the WT ways. I agree with you - that the way the WT works destroys families, their ties, and their ability to mend.
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"Maintain a Threefold Cord in Marriage,"
by Will Power in"maintain a threefold cord in marriage," .
can anyone give me some info about this talk .
day 2 of assembly @ 3:45 (lol) .
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Will Power
anyone heard the Threefold Cord talk???
I'm also interested in the "Staggering to Slaughter" talk.
both in the program posted by Blondie (thanks)
Also - would the Canadian version be the same?
Assembly today in Kitchener, Ontario
I would really appreciate hearing any comments.
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Gary: I agree with the way JWs use holidays & special family time. They know the power of a simple card, or phone call. They wouldn't want any sentimental feelings to re-activate a love or bond that used to exist between family members. -
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What are your favorite WT misquotes?
by ithinkisee inwe hear a lot on this board how the society likes to misquote scientists, encyclopedias, and so forth.
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what are your favorite and most offensive misquotes from the society when you went to do some fact-checking?
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1 Thes 4:16
the Lord* will desend with the call of the archangel.....
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So I have a Question...And I would appreciate an answer...^_^
by NaruNaruChan inwow, it's been forever since i posted on here.
anyway, in the last three years i've managed to completely separate myself from the jw way of thinking.
at this point, i know beyond a shadow of a doubt that it's crap, and their teachings mean nothing to me... but my best friend made a terrible mistake, so i need some advice regarding his situation.. .
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Will Power
Sounds like a new recruitment strategy.
and I'm not kidding.
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"Maintain a Threefold Cord in Marriage,"
by Will Power in"maintain a threefold cord in marriage," .
can anyone give me some info about this talk .
day 2 of assembly @ 3:45 (lol) .
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Will Power
Thanks Gary - I thought it was you!
I just finished printing it out again.
Hubby tore up the last copy. (but kept it hmmmm)
maybe to check context of the quotes LOL
anyone heard the Threefold Cord talk???
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"Maintain a Threefold Cord in Marriage,"
by Will Power in"maintain a threefold cord in marriage," .
can anyone give me some info about this talk .
day 2 of assembly @ 3:45 (lol) .
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Will Power
Blondie - thanks for the reply
I was looking for the meat of the "three cord"
concentrating on both JWs is what irks me.
I remember reading a paper (was it by Gary Buss?)
The Eclectic Marriage
the WT knows a husband & wife NEED the spirituality between for a successful union, but forbid a witness mate to relate on that level with a UBM.
Like my husband says "he'll talk about God & stuff with a stranger - but not with ME his WIFE"
Is this Third seen as God? or the Org? (I know they can't tell the diff, but I sure as heck do)
sounds kind of like a trinity thing - husband & wife are one + one more?
and the slaughter is on CD?
like would it be at re-examine.org? - I'll check there. Would it really be the same thing? LOL. sorry - can you tell I'm not a JW?
LOL
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